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  • #106318
     Wants To Help 
    Participant

    There are five stages a victim of DA will find herself in during a relationship:

    Denial, Acceptance, Realisation, Flight, Recovery.

    Draw yourself a big triangle and divide it into five pieces by drawing horizontal lines across it.
    In the widest chunk at the bottom write Denial, the next chunk up is Acceptance, the next up is Realisation, the next is Flight, then the little tip at the top is Recovery. That tip is so little because not many ladies make it there.

    Then add a ladder. The ladder is always in Denial to Realisation, and always just one rung away from Flight.

    For years I lived up and down between Denial, Acceptance and Realisation, with a Flight every so often, then sucked back in to his lies and going between D, A, R again. I never made it to Recovery until I left for the… let’s just say it wasn’t quite as many as the statistical 7! I gave him way too many chances though.

    So the longer you are in Flight and don’t give in to him and fall for all his old tricks and attempted charm to woo you back with all the BS, you start getting nearer to Recovery. I’ve been in Recovery now for well over a decade. So keep going, you never want to go back down that ladder. There’s no ladder from Flight to Recovery. Once you’ve been in Flight for long enough you can kick that ladder away, Recovery is just the next step.

    Stages of Denial
    He’s tired / stressed / upset
    He didn’t mean it
    It was totally out of character for him
    It’s the first time he’s done it
    It was a mistake
    DA doesn’t happen to people like me

    Stages of Acceptance
    He’s just a very angry / jealous man
    He can’t help it, he’s had a tough life
    He only does it because he loves me
    It was my fault because I …
    I’m not easy to live with either
    He only abuses me, not the children

    Stages of Realisation
    This is wrong
    This hurts
    This is making me ill / anxious / depressed
    He doesn’t abuse anyone else in his life
    I need help / protection
    Calls to Police
    Wants him to stop what he’s doing
    Ready to ask for help

    Stages of Flight
    This has got to stop
    I’m getting out of this
    If I’m not here he can’t do it anymore
    Need for empowerment
    Need for safety and security

    Reasons we return from Flight
    Guilt
    Fear
    Love
    Panic
    Threats
    Begging
    Believing he will change
    Can’t cope with not knowing what he’s doing
    Post Separation Abuse, it’s easier to go back than it is to stay away
    The Justice System fails us
    Cannot cope with his unpredictability
    No realistic options for housing / finances

    Stages of Recovery
    I need to be free of him
    It’s about me now, not him
    Counselling
    Rebuilding Self Esteem
    Gaining Confidence
    Acceptance and Reflection
    Positive Achievements without him
    I’m over him
    Guilt
    Post Separation Abuse
    Child Conflict
    Parenting Issues
    No matter how hard it is I’m not going back

    This simple diagram and explanation was given in a group DA Counselling session I had a very long time ago. Being able to picture myself on this triangle, going up and down that ladder really helped me understand where I was in the cycle of abuse and where I needed to head to. I hope this resonates with someone else.

    Let’s keep bumping this up the list every few days for the new ladies who are joining.

  • #106327
     iliketea 
    Participant

    Thanks for this, its really useful seeing it written down, with the details. Ive drawn it up in my diary.
    I’m definitely at Flight but worried that will be let down by the judicial system because the lack of severity…I haven’t thought through the what happens if I dont get the Occupation Order and non-mol…

    Will keep bumping this is one of the most helpful things Ive read, I like pyramids and diagrams.
    x

  • #106330
     Weepingwillow 
    Participant

    Thank you for posting this x

  • #106349
     Kitkat44 
    Participant

    Thank you! This is great to visualise
    Xx

  • #106363
     Braelynn 
    Participant

    Love this thread!!!! Going to post this a few places because it was a lightbulb moment for me… Sometimes finding the words for things, how you can you say blah, blah….

    Something just hit me here, was watching a movie about a manipulative, very charming guy in this woman’s life, who turned out to be a total snake….but, people who aren’t empathy based, who have none, I think we so believe that they do because of the pleasure they get conning us and lovebombing us in the beginning. We do see pleasure and I do think that’s very real, so it confuses us, but what we we don’t know it’s true orientation. What is it rooted in? We assume that they are like us and it’s because they love us, too and all that but what if the joy is related to a job/con well done? What if all that total loveliness that we see from them stems from that and that alone? Good question. We mistake it for something it’s not. Then later when things get ugly we get all confused about what we saw as real and we defend it. Well, it was real but “why” they felt all that may be a totally different reason than we assumed it was.

  • #106387
     Wants To Help 
    Participant

    Bumping up

  • #106404
     Soulsearcher18 
    Participant

    Good post, definitely makes sense.

  • #106411
     Headspinning 
    Participant

    Great post! I recognise the stages very well – especially denial! I’m now between flight and recovery. I’m feeling much better but I still get knocked off my balance by occasional random messages I ignore or a memory that pops in my head.
    But I’m determined to stay strong because I know people don’t change and I know the outcome if I stepped back x

  • #106463
     iliketea 
    Participant

    Bumping

  • #107253
     Wants To Help 
    Participant

    Weekly bump for the new ladies

  • #107277
     Scapegoat 
    Participant

    Thank you for posting that really makes sense. I think I’m definitely in realisation though can’t make the call to the police. I did it before ( going back a few years) then I bottled it as it was at a difficult time for me (another excuse- as always) I just can’t get out of this stage. I think I’ve been here for almost 18 months now and whilst I 100% want to be free I just can’t do it. I’m too busy feeling that some it probably is my fault as I do tend to stand up for myself now and would feel bad if he was kicked out and had nowhere to go ( I also know it would make him incredibly angry with me at the centre of his anger) I just wish it would stop and he would let me go. He doesn’t want to be with me anyway, everyday he tells me how disgusting I am, how he can get somebody better ( wish he would🙏) How I’ve ruined his life and that I’m entitled to nada.
    But thank you for the post, it really does make sense.

  • #107290
     Lifebegins 
    Participant

    Scapegoat I’m just slightly ahead of you moving from realisation to flight. I could write the exact same story as you. Not sure how long you’ve been on this forum but it’s been a god send for me. If anything I wish I had started planning for flight earlier so I could be better prepared. Might be something to think about.

  • #107405
     iliketea 
    Participant

    Bumping x

  • #107451
     JustHadEnough 
    Participant

    Thank you for bumping this I’m new and it’s helped me visualise my situation a lot better and understand why I go up and down (I’m not mad I’m human and it’s ok!!) I’m in The realisation stage and after talking to domestic abuse team I realise this is the long game I have to play – ie get all my ducks in a line so I can leave already prepared with knowing where and have a little money to help me. It’s the financial uncertainty that has always worried me and now knowing that I can do this in my own time is a little bit of control I have. I can do this and I b****y well will.

  • #107465
     Same-again 
    Participant

    I’ve been pin balling between realisation and flight (or fight) for a while.

    I can picture myself and the pin balling is taking it’s toll. I’ve been bashed around in that pin ball triangle and I need to bounce out of it and make a leap to RECOVERY.

    I need to stop. I need to look after me.

    Wish me luck ladies.

  • #107466
     JustHadEnough 
    Participant

    Same-again I know exactly how you feel. Wishing you luck too xx

  • #107772
     iliketea 
    Participant

    Bumping for the women who are doubting, for the women who are wondering, for the women who need some reassurance. Reach out when you feel comfortable, there will always be somewhere here to listen. xx

  • #108258
     iliketea 
    Participant

    Bumping for the new women on the forum.xx

  • #108466
     Eggshells 
    Participant

    Bumping because this is gold dust. Thank you @wantstohelp. xx

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