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    • #115427
      Beautifulday
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      Hi everyone
      I havent been on the forum for a days, truth is im not doing well Im feeling low again so was trying to re focus and think straight.
      I told my one good friend about my relationship and filing for Divorce she has been brilliant and very supportive , always on my side. I thought thr otherday maybe its best to reach out to another friend as maybe the more support I have the better I will feel. So I contacted a friend I hadn’t spoken to in a while said what had been happening and I was rather shocked by the replies , basically saying sorry im going through this, maybe your Husband is going through things too? If you divorce him he will miss you like crazy and be so sorry for what he’s lost , maybe he’s just not good at showing his emotions or expressing himself? It was all depending him!!! On the end it left me confused, feeling guilty, feeling like im throwing everything away, over reacting , I feel horrible after her reply. Has anyone else had this? Im not going to contact her again as its just making me feel awful.

    • #115430
      Buddy
      Participant

      Yes, I have had this .. friends saying marriage is hard work , can’t just give up , once a friend said to me , has your husband got any stress relief does he play sport etc , almost as if to say he throws things as he needs to have something to take his stress out on 😔
      X

    • #115431
      Buddy
      Participant

      We get so confused but only we know our relationship , I didn’t trust my own thoughts and constantly needed validation , but we don’t need this , out gut tells us we are right .
      Remember how awful he makes u feel x

    • #115436
      KIP.
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      She has no idea about domestic abuse and coercive control. I met some people like this so I’m afraid I had to keep them out my life for quite some time. You’re still very vulnerable. Surround yourself only with positive people who understand. She’s triggered those feelings because of the abuse which kind of proves your point that you have been abused x have you written a list of all the abusive things he’s done from day 1? It helps to keep focussed on the harm the abuse does. Our minds want to push happy thoughts to the front because it’s protecting us from the pain of the abuse. I have the most awful memory of him hurting a pet and when I start to doubt myself I remember that. Think of the worst thing he did to you and then ask if you still doubt yourself x

    • #115443
      Beautifulday
      Participant

      Hi @buddy @kip
      Thank you both for your replies and I hope your both OK.

      I was doing so good until i spoke to her 🙁 I’m actually really miffed because if my friend had told me what I had told her I would 100% be on her side, would never defend the man would always take her side.
      Its almost as if sometimes these “friends ” are in bad marriages themselves (i know she is as shes told e but its not abusive ) and sometimes I feel they get jealous because they don’t have the strength the leave so try to stop you leaving? I know its a stupid thing to think but I honestly believe it!

      When I said about the divorce she was like ohhhh but what about him? Does he has a support network around him ? She knows full well he has no family here mainly because he’s fallen out with them, I said no and she was like awww all feeling sorry for HIM!!!!! I was thinking to myself hang on what about me?? Thhis is thing with these men its all about THEM all the time!!!!!!!

      I said back look its my decision and I know im doing the right thing , thinking she would be supportive but the complete opposite! I instantly felt immense guilt , like I shouldn’t be doing this like im a terrible person, im selfish etc .


      @kip
      yes I’ve kept a journal for say the past 2 years and your right I read back through it last night and felt much better thought of all the horrid names hes called me, the physical things he’s done to me and I feel better.

      I just don’t get some people

    • #115444
      KIP.
      Participant

      Don’t try to understand others. They simply don’t have the knowledge you have. Many people minimise and don’t want to face the fact that abuse is rife. It doesn’t reflect on you at all. You’re still very vulnerable and I remember those days. My own family victim blamed me. I was raped and assaulted and abused over decades, he had a criminal conviction for same yet he played the victim and I was blamed for daring to go to the police and expose his abuse. Sometimes it’s easier to side with an abuser, especially where it’s kids as they also fear being targeted by the abuser. So there are many reason why people don’t understand or choose not to. Don’t let her ruin your day. You’re not responsible for her actions. Just be glad that you have the knowledge now to help others and not minimise. Those feeling that she brought back up will be making you anxious too. It will pass. My best friend of decades who knew about the marital rapes simply normalised it. Which made me think I was over reacting. Have faith in your own judgement. Imagine him doing those things to a close friend or family member. It’s wrong, it’s illegal and you don’t need to justify your decision to anyone x and you dint need their validation to know it was abuse and you’re doing the right thing x

    • #115473
      maddog
      Participant

      It’s horrible when people side with the abuser. It’s a shock and a body blow. I have been getting quite cross with a very old friend for telling me I knew a long time ago things which I didn’t know until far more recently. Although domestic abuse is so common, so many people can’t believe that people behave the way abusers behave. They don’t want to recognise the patterns that may be in their own relationships.

      Keep learning about domestic abuse. Abusers follow the same patterns. KIP is so right about people normalising abnormal behaviour. It’s really shocking when the fog rises and we can see clearly.

      Hold your head high. Divorce is awful, especially with an abuser. Please make sure you legal counsel recognises coercive control, and your husband will probably lie through his teeth.

    • #115476
      Beautifulday
      Participant

      @KIP
      Thank you for your advice and im sorry to hear about everything you went through 🙁
      Im not going to get advice from this one friend anymore as I dont want anyone bringing me down and messing with my head. It took such courage to tell anyone and was really shocked by her response, like you say people will minimise it and when your abuser has slways played mr nice guy Infront of friends they find it hard to believe I suppose. That’s the thing the act so charming, kind, caring and helpful around others, ive had people say to me hes such a nice a guy or your so lucky !! And I think to myself if only they knew what goes on behind closed doors :(, ive just got to be strong now and hold it together. Im absolutely dreading Christmas time 🙁 I can’t imagine what its going to be like living under same roof and im dreading the next two weeks as we have a proper lockdown like back in March:(

    • #115477
      Beautifulday
      Participant

      Hi @Maddog and thanks for your reply much appreciated.

      I think your right some people just dismiss it or font believe it. I’ve been feeling better today but the depression & anxiety comes over me in waves ill be ok and feeling good then bam just like that I come crashing down 🙁 and the worst is i keep smiling at work nobody has thr faintest idea of what I’m going through its almost like I live a double life.

      Since filing for divorce ive always been having terrible nightmares mostly involving him and also flashbacks of physical incidents that just come into my mind and I can’t seem to switch off from them . I didnt realise I flinch too until a work colleague said I do. If there’s a loud noise or someone startles me I jump so I think im definitely experiencing some sort of ptsd.

      The letter hasn’t arrived yet it should be (detail removed by moderator) and im absolutely dreading it havent slept or ate much and to make things worse hes now being all nice calling me lovely and being all polite even though I’ve warned him the letter is coming I just don’t get it

    • #115852
      Camel
      Participant

      Hi Beautifulday,

      I hope you’re feeling a bit better. Your ‘friend’ reminded me of something. My dad had died. A friend cornered me, said something like ‘Sorry about your dad, did you know Rex died, we’re devastated, here’s some pictures of where we buried him, blah, blah, blah…’

      Rex was her dog.

      Some people are oblivious to the harm they cause with their words. They are opinionated, self-righteous and usually self-absorbed. We shouldn’t give a moment’s thought to a single thing that comes out of their mouths.

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