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12th June 2025 at 12:38 am #175940
Potter7
ParticipantHi,I’ve been single a short while but I’m still left with with physical symptoms from my anxiety around his constant verbal and emotional unpredictability. He was never physical but he did throw and kick things at times but nothing intimidating. He would sometimes wake me up on the middle of the night after being angry at me all day wanting s*X and I allowed it to avoid him kicking off again but cried straight after, this happened a few times. I confronted him about it and he said being intimate was his way to show me he loved me. I questioned it again after the split not long after and he said he doesn’t remember doing it so must have had a psychotic break (he has a history of severe metal health breakdowns before he met me that I didn’t know about until after he moved in) He controlled every argument using guilt, telling me he’s self harming in secret via texts, being defensive and twisting the narrative so I was left confused. He lived off my income and I paid some of his debt so he wouldn’t lose his house that I wasn’t allowed inside. He lived with me and I paid for everything even though he worked and I didn’t because of disability. Horrible drunk but I wasn’t allowed to talk about it once he sobered up. Silent treatment constantly and even left the house once for an hour then argued with me because I asked him to (specific detail removed by Moderator) just to say insulting hurtful things about me until he was satisfied. I got so anxious after he screamed at me once i was blue lighted to A&E (medical condition removed by Moderator) due to high stresses at home. Nothing changed. He got diagnosed with (medical condition removed by Moderator) at he told me I should allow his anger because he was poorly.
Since being single I’ve placed boundaries and he crosses them all..told him to text late at night, make sexual comments, he got mad (timeframe removed by Moderator) because he sent flowers and I questioned his motive, he got mad because he didn’t get the validation he needs and kicked off so I had a breakdown and told him to not contact me and he kept ringing me threatening to come down “to check im ok” I told him to leave me alone and he wasn’t welcome so he demanded I text him back (timeframe removed by Moderator) and I said no..I was physically being sick at that point. He’s still text (number removed by Moderator) since then saying he noticed id switched on privacy settings on my phone and social media and that he wasn’t ignoring me, he was listening to my boundary, which he crossed by texting me..then again (timeframe removed by Moderator) even though I said no late night texts saying (specific detail removed by Moderator)..I didn’t reply to that either.
I feel so trapped still..Is this even abuse what he’s doing.?
I know once I delete and block him he’s going to drag my name through the dirt saying I dumped him while he was terminally ill..I feel I need to defend myself and speak the truth but I don’t know how to explain it all..I’m so physically ill from the stress of it all, I feel so scared..
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13th June 2025 at 1:04 am #175953
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantIt took me about 6 months to stop feeling ill from the anxiety. That’s probably not what you want to hear but I think it’s best to be honest. It may be quicker for you. It was a gradual process though where I got less stressed out gradually. So now it’s just on occasional times when I spiral, but most of the time I feel fine.
A couple of things helped me. Always leave 2 hours between getting a text or call etc from him and replying. Switch your phone into ‘sleep’ or do not disturb mode at night so that you don’t receive texts in the night.
He won’t respect your boundaries. You have to take them. Be ready to enforce them by involving others. This can be the police, or a domestic abuse agency or friends or family ( tell him these people will come to your house if he turns up).
Fear, obligation and guilt is how they operate.
You are scared, you’re right to be, you’re wise to be. Your mind and body are protecting you. It’s all ok. Give it time. The body takes a while to calm down I noticed! But it will.
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13th June 2025 at 9:15 am #175955
Potter7
ParticipantThank you so much for your reply, it makes me feel less alone. It’s hard trying to explain the anxiety to others around things that really shouldn’t even matter in the grand scheme of things.
My ex messaged (timeframe removed by Moderator) and tried to call me, demanding I tell him how I am because he was worried. (I asked for space) Told him how my anxiety was affecting me and that I needed more time alone. He got annoyed and told me he was taking me off socials and phone etc and would stop communicating with me and will make his (relative removed by Moderator) text me regarding coming to get the rest of his things and that in our relationship the issues “went both ways” because he spoke to his Dr and counsellor about me.!! I reacted to his actions…and confronted him about behaviours that hurt me.
So I took the leap and blocked his whole family because I was so sick of him twisting the narrative for him to play the victim especially because of his illness. So I knew keeping the peace wasn’t going to work and he’d always try and bait me. So now I’m sat scared waiting for the smear campaign and I feel so sick…he’s supposed to be coming here (timeframe removed by Moderator) for his things (my (relative removed by Moderator) arranged it) and I’ve been told to leave the house but my anxiety has been that high im scared to leave the house too..Thank you again for your reply, it really means a lot
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13th June 2025 at 4:06 pm #175961
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantIt is very difficult to explain to other people, how this anxiety and stress feels overwhelming. I think that’s because they will see this person (your ex) for what he is, and will see his chances of ruining your life in perspective ( the reality is that you can ruin his life just as much as he can ruin yours.)
Its valuable that others can see this, because it is a kind of reality check.
But, what others who haven’t been through it can’t see, is how you’ve been coerced, manipulated and scared into living in the reality where you are very scared of this man.
It does feel like a really lonely place, and it is.
But trust your reality. You’re not scared for no reason. From what you’ve said in your posts, this is a very abusive situation and your ex is very tenacious about keeping you in this situation. He doesn’t see you as a separate person with the right to make your own decisions. That’s bad. He uses manipulation to guilt you into staying trapped. -
13th June 2025 at 4:16 pm #175962
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantWhat I found was that usually somewhere in the relationship he has made you scared. This may be something that he did to you, or even just something he did to other people. In my case it was something that made me afraid because I felt like he had no limits.
It’s done in such a way, that for some reason we let it pass. Maybe there’s a lot of rationalization about it afterwards by them or an excuse for why it happened. The result though is that a really primal fear is seeded in us. On this foundation they build a structure ( a prison) for us.
Maybe that’s how we can tell it’s an abusive relationship, this fear and anxiety that you talk about is there. In a healthy relationship, we may have arguments, we may be sad, or angry or confused.
But it doesn’t make us scared.This fear never stops being what they use to control us. If they feel it’s waning they resort to guilt and obligation.
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13th June 2025 at 4:28 pm #175964
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantMy personal experience was to try and ignore the smear campaign.
Some people feel it’s really important to speak out and fight their corner, others just stay silent and hold their truth.
I found it was too hard to explain, and I didn’t want to be that person who was trying to win others over to my point of view. Leave them with it. Let them figure it out. I definitely didn’t try and convince people who will always be on his side anyway ( ie his family). I would have done exactly what you’ve done. Block them. Don’t communicate with them, ever.Simple examples of things they did, are much better than going into chapter and verse in my mind. Sometimes abuse does show through clearly in simple facts.
Sometimes people aren’t ready or able to see it. That’s their problem. Move on. There are people out there who do see it. A whole tribe of us.
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13th June 2025 at 8:46 pm #175967
Potter7
ParticipantI’m so sorry for the delay, Ive had issues logging in and then it boots me off if I’ve typed for too long.
(I’ve had to type this out in my notes on my phone then copy and paste)
I’m so grateful for your messages, I’ve been sat thinking it all over and it’s really upsetting that the women here have all been affected by such difficult circumstances, but reading your replies and feeling heard and understood ( I’m deeply sorry you had to endure this kind of treatment aswell) it’s oddly comforting which I’ve struggled with because it’s sad to articulate it in that way..
My exes behaviours started around me with his vengeful attitude towards his ex (she had an affair with a younger man) he clung to me pretty quickly after that just as friends for a short while then he made his move after convincing me it wasn’t a rebound. I noticed how he sometimes spoke to his close family and then him kicking off at them and making excuses to come to mine for comfort and to be away from them.
He quickly started with the depression and guilt around money and his ex so helped out thinking I could ease those stresses and we’d be ok..silly me, it cemented him to feel ok to keep doing it. If I said I couldn’t afford things he wanted he’d guilt trip me saying he was a financial burden and a bad boyfriend etc..but he’d spend his wages on drinking around his home town and ring me mad because his ex had upset him or his family..so I’d tell him to go home to save money and he’d be angry at me twisting the narrative and saying I hated him going out and I had an issue with his ex.?? All of this just escalated and never stopped..it just made him more angry the more I pointed out how he was hurting me but all that would happen was him talking over me and shutting me down and spent hours after that making sure he tore me down so id be quiet..he used his history of mental health and other illness to do the same which hurt…in the end I shouted back because I was at my wits end and had a few trips to A&E from anxiety and stress but he didn’t care it just fuelled his fire to double down or use against me..so I gave up until I saw my opening. He threatened to leave again so knew I had to stick to my guns and make him leave but make sure I didn’t let him back in, it enraged him and he tried to still control me and bait me into reacting etc..and the I broke down and finally pulled the plugbfor good, yet I’m still sat here scared..I don’t think he’s done fully because he’ll want me to hurt for taking the control away..again thank you so much..you don’t know how much I needed this.. I really do appreciate it
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13th June 2025 at 10:16 pm #175968
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantYou are so welcome. This forum ( despite its horrendous habit of timing people out in the middle of a post…this is why I post in several short posts…it times you out after 15 mins but I swear it’s quicker than that!)…anyway, this forum has helped me so much to move through this experience and start to heal, that I want to be here for others too.
You should be really proud of what you’ve done so far. Which is to take your chance when you could, to change this situation. You deserve better.
keep postingxx
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13th June 2025 at 10:26 pm #175969
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantPs. You’re right, he probably will want to hurt you, to punish you. He may also not give up trying to get you back for quite some time. Mine is still going strong trying to hoover me back in, (after quite a long time). But, if you keep a record of everything and never speak directly, make sure it’s absolutely always recorded, on text, email etc ( screen shot and save to a separate file or device) you can start to see the cycle of abuse in action, and you have evidence to show the police if need be, or other people if necessary.
The fear and anxiety will take a while. Going ‘grey rock’ or better still, full ‘no contact’ will help you recover more quickly, but it does take a bit of time. The abusers voice is still in our heads. It takes a while to start to hear ourselves again.It does get better! Xx
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13th June 2025 at 10:42 pm #175970
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantJust want to reply to a question that you put in your very first post “is it even abuse, what he’s doing?”
my personal reaction to that, is that the things you have described are extremely abusive. They are abusive in a way which is very difficult for us to pin down and describe. That’s what makes them so dangerous. They create a deadly confusion in us ( I think professionals call it ‘cognitive dissonance’) which causes us to question ourselves to such an extent that we can just freeze. One reaction to threat, fight, flight or freeze.
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13th June 2025 at 11:43 pm #175971
Potter7
ParticipantI’ve blocked him on everything. I’m sure he’ll find a way to attempt contact at some point or get mad because he can’t.
I have a folder in my phone of every text argument from the begining and secret videos of arguments and him twisting everything and the guilt and manipulation around money, anger and all the rest of it in-between.
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13th June 2025 at 11:45 pm #175972
Potter7
ParticipantIm really worried about him coming to get his things. My daughter said she’ll be here but I also don’t want her getting upset or defensive because of what he’s done because he’ll feed off that. But I know I just don’t want him to see me so need to think of a plan.
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13th June 2025 at 11:52 pm #175973
Potter7
ParticipantI completely understand how it’s affected you when you say about the anxiety and how long it’ll take to slowly ease etc..just thinking about him makes me have a physical reaction right now so I know this will take a good while. I regard myself as lucky that it was emotion based from him because I know so many have to survive daily from so much more than I dare imagine.. but I just knew I needed the right support and hopefully I’ll be able to help others. I’m still learning about all of this and the words used and reading more about behaviours and patterns so it’s all been really eye opening because I’ve never met anyone like him in my entire life..
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14th June 2025 at 12:57 pm #175976
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantYes I get why you aren’t looking forward to him coming to get his stuff. Trouble is I guess that you do want to be there to make sure that he doesn’t take your stuff, or damage it? If you’re not bothered, you and your daughter could stand outside, hopefully where there may be neighbors etc around?
In this case, a person present who he doesn’t want to lose face in front of, would be your best bet. Someone that he thinks he may be able to convince to be an ally.
The more the merrier, even if they’re strangers, if you possibly can.
if that’s simply not possible, pre-plan with your daughter. You’ve said that he’s never been violent, so that’s good, but it won’t stop him trying to either get a last mental dagger in, or, if he’s changed strategy already, to play the victim, guilt and obligation card for all its worth. So, you do need to be prepared. Both keep phones on you, fully charged. One person always stand by the door, or outside. Have another person on the end of one of the phones if you can, or have either record or video running surreptitiously .
You say he has had mental health problems in the past, so how did that play out?
Other options are to leave his stuff by the door or outside.
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14th June 2025 at 1:09 pm #175977
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantYou know what, are you sure you should be doing this?
the more I think about it. The more I think that you should have more people there, preferably the police.I don’t think you and your daughter should do this alone.
why take the risk?
he’s blaming abusive past behavior on a ‘psychotic break’. Can you guarantee he won’t experience another one? Why risk it.
Could you postpone him collecting his stuff until you can have more people there, or, even better, leave his stuff outside for him to collect.
If he makes a fuss, that’s tough. Let him suggest an alternative ( one that you’re 100% happy with ie you don’t have to see him and you’re 100% safe).
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14th June 2025 at 4:03 pm #175978
Potter7
ParticipantHi, it’s crazy that you’ve put about him changing tactics.. because it’s just happened.
I felt quite anxious all day thinking about (timeframe removed by Moderator) mostly so tried to relax a little.
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14th June 2025 at 4:14 pm #175979
Potter7
ParticipantHe’s trying to control the narrative to still make himself look like he’s affected and that reply to the other person was just so he could show me he’s “playing nicely” because he’ll be on edge not knowing what I’m doing. He’ll have sent mutual friends to see what I’m posting to gage where my head’s at and I’m not posting anything and I think he’s scared or trying to control the response from me to others about the relationship. I could potentially ruin his fake persona online or he’s trying to ease things to try make me feel bad and guilty because he’s obviously telling people he’s broken.. (detail removed by Moderator) I feel anxious and so mad..but not surprised unfortunately.. definitely debating to ring police for (timeframe removed by Moderator)..
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14th June 2025 at 4:23 pm #175980
Potter7
ParticipantHis mental health history he’s never gone into depth about or the full cause of them. He just casually sent me a photo of a paper of dates these happened and the name of the issue. (medical details removed by Moderator) He never showed me the full reports but luckily I still have the photo of these diagnosed mental health issues. Looking back this was just a way to control my response to his behaviours so I’d not escalate or dare challenge because of the potential outcome..and although I always spoke my truth or tried to convince him of my worth he still used these things to control how I reacted to a lot of things he said or did..
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14th June 2025 at 4:32 pm #175981
Potter7
ParticipantAlso he’ll be obviously posting things publicly around his health for attention (he’s always admitted he loves the validation from people) for people to send private messages and it’ll say on his profile he’s single. We have a huge mutual friends list so they’re obviously seeing his things now so he’ll ramp up his social media about his illness and even posted about mental health and therapies to lay the foundation for him to make me look bad when I asked him to not text me and to leave me alone..(before I blocked him and his family on social media etc..)
He’s never going to stop is he….
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14th June 2025 at 4:44 pm #175982
Potter7
ParticipantWorst case scenario.. weather permitting I’m going to put his things outside the front door (timeframe removed by Moderator). I have a ring doorbell so it’ll record when movement activated I can also record manually from my phone. But I need him to leave the door key I think he might have. If not I may have to look into lock changes etc..but I also don’t want to message him back about the key because it could annoy/provoke him.
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14th June 2025 at 8:38 pm #175984
EvenSerpentsShine
ParticipantGood luck with (timeframe removed by Moderator), at worst you’ll have to change the locks, which is a pain in the neck, but relatively small amount of hassle I suppose, in the grand scheme of things. Would it be possible to ask a mutual friend to get the key off him in advance?
If he’s anything like mine he will change between being the victim and attacking me with mental and verbal abuse as his mood changes.
He’s obviously putting a lot of energy into presenting the image that he wants to the world.
I can see that this could be painful for you.Did you say in an earlier post that it was actually him who ended the relationship? I’ll just re-read. If that’s the case, then an option could be to keep your silence, let him spin his tale, and when people finally come to you awaiting your explanation, you can just say that he ended it, and leave it at that!
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