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    • #153540
      Chocolatebar
      Participant

      I feel like I’m going to be trapped here. Husband has bought a camera doorbell which will inevitably alert him of my comings & goings. Although it will be set up with me as “account holder” as he’s not particularly savvy with technology!, I believe as a “shared user” he will still be able to set his notifications to show ALL movement and not just alerted when doorbell rings. I now feel like life is over…I feel totally trapped:( 🙁

    • #153579
      Lisa
      Main Moderator

      Hi Chocolatebar,

      I’m sorry to hear that your partner has purchased a camera doorbell. Unfortunately this type of surveillance technology is being used more and more frequently by abusers to track and monitor women, which inevitably leaves women feeling even more trapped and controlled.

      It’s good that you will be the primary account holder with this which will hopefully give you access to turn functions off in cases of emergency.

      There is information around digital abuse and stalking on the website if this feels helpful to have a look at: https://www.womensaid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Digital_Stalking_Guide_V2_Nov_2012.pdf

      Take care and keep posting,
      Lisa

      • #153582
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        Thank you for the information Lisa.

    • #153594
      StrongLife
      Participant

      Hi there,

      I am not sure of your specific situation. Wanted to say I hear you on that type of surveillance. I have seen/heard of the door bell types.

      • #153605
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        Feels like every move I make is being watched. I’m getting to the stage where I almost want to deliberately go in and out loads of times just to wind him up but then I’ll be on the recieving end of his anger xx

    • #153606
      Strongenough
      Participant

      Hi Chocolatebar,

      I lived with constant surveillance both inside and outside of my old house, I know how you feel, it’s a horrible way to live. He used the excuse these devices were for home security but that was just a cover up. When my ex was off on one of his evil phases he would sit up all night and re run the tapes hoping to catch me or the kids doing something he could then kick off about, (he never did find anything which didn’t calm him he just would then switch to something else!).

      I know that feeling of being in an invisible prison and I have complete empathy for you. No matter what he does you know this isn’t right and that’s your strength at the moment. Take Care x

      • #153616
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        Did you ever feel like deliberately wanting him to “find” something? I’m torn between anger and fear. It’s no way to live is it but you’re right with what you say about strength.
        Thank you x*x

    • #153618
      Strongenough
      Participant

      To be honest I wouldn’t have dared, I was too scared. I can’t imagine the hours he wasted reviewing the footage. He also had audio recording devices hidden in the home to monitor all my conversations. It took me a long time to be able to speak without thinking first once I’d left, I had become so used to being monitored. When I look back I can’t believe I lived that way for so long.

      • #153624
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        Do you mind me asking how long you lived like that? Sounds absolutely awful. X*x

      • #153691
        Twisted Sister
        Participant

        this is the equivalent to being locked in a cell under constant supervision, and its going on at a ridiculous level, encouraging those who are not exactly the most abusive of partners to access further devices for control of their partners and children.

        Its insidious and its already destroying people’s lives. You have no life left if everything you do is watched, no privacy, total exposure, all boundaries gone.

        I cannot believe our world is absolutely crawling with cameras watching us all the time. Its destroying lives. There are those who realise the harm caused by constant surveillance and those women who see no harm in it, men do though, men see what it does.

        I can’t believe our laws don’t protect anyone from this. Even children. It used to be that its illegal to film children, but no longer, even in the home, and this leaves a massive gaping wide open door for paedophilia to be perpetrated against children, explicit images of naked children to get onto the internet.

        I cannot understand why noone is lobbying govt about this.

        You can report him, as you have no agreed to this in your home and he won’t remove it, this is part of controlling behaviour and its invasive. Its an obvious tool of control, evidence for you.

        warmest wishes

        ts

      • #153763
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        Thank you TS, you’re right, it’s unbelievable that none of us are free these days to come and go in life as we please….and feel safe.
        All these cameras, fancy doorbells etc are not just about “security” , for some of us it has a detrimental effect:(

    • #153627
      Strongenough
      Participant

      @chocolatebar sent you a message.

    • #153689
      Lazarus17
      Participant

      Yep, me too – both video and audio (audio was unknown to me until I found it, but I don’t know how long it’d been active)

      Like you Strongenough, my ex would review the footage all night, sleep half the day, then “confront” me with “the evidence” (usually me going out or coming in not at the time I’d told him I had 🙄)

      As all surveillance ran on 240v, if I wanted peace on the rare occasion he went out, there would be a “power cut” (I’d turn the power off at the fuse board), even if just for an hour. Was always terrified I’d get found out but if I needed to have a private conversation or pop out…..🤷‍♀️

      • #153764
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        That must have been an awful way to live Lazuras17, I resent the control they have over us but I’m just not strong enough to do anything about it….as much as I desperately want to 🙁 xx

    • #153778
      Twisted Sister
      Participant

      I hear you Chocolatebar, it takes the law to protect us, and when it comes to camera’s and surveillance the protections seem to have disappeared. The police actively encourage it.

    • #153779
      Twisted Sister
      Participant

      the tools of perpetrators seem to becoming more and more normalised. Many dont realise the full impact of this, and the complete loss of privacy. How is it ok for someone to film another in private, I mean legally accepted. The cameras are now everywhere, and so easy to buy small listening devices and visual ones too to hide.

      Your massive red flag is that someone wants to continually watch you. Extremely toxic.

    • #153784
      Bananaboat
      Participant

      I had it the other way round, he felt the doorbell was monitoring him and he destroyed it. When it was working it gave me some safety to see times he came home, what mood or state he was in and who else was in my home before I got back. Probably just as bad when I think about it. In reality how many genuinely important things to do you miss and need such a doorbell for, life was certainly easier without them!

      • #153844
        Chocolatebar
        Participant

        I agree, life was hard enough before but now it adds yet another thing to contend with xx

    • #153846
      Twix
      Participant

      My ex used to record me, he was so jealous & convinced I was meeting people to sleep with them, he’d even put something in my car to record journeys & to check if I spoke to anyone. He’d done this on at least 2 separate occasions in the past before this most recent one. Even said he could hear me talking to someone when I’d not had interaction with anyone. I accidentally unplugged the ring doorbell from charging the batteries one day & he went mad, saying I’d done it deliberately so he couldn’t see who was coming & going, my reason being that I’d be hoovering & genuinely forgot to plug it back in wasn’t good enough, it was all lies in his view. He then tampered with the house alarm & said I’d reset it, but he’d disconnected it from the mains power. I was convinced all of this was his mental health declining, never thought for a second that he was abusing me, it’s so surreal.

    • #153848
      Eggshells
      Participant

      I’ve just read that you can get WiFi jammers to stop the device from connecting to the Internet.

      It might be worth looking into.

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