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    • #173121
      Treesilhouette
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      Are jokes that hurt abuse?

      Over the last year my oh has done the following in a jokey way each time:

      1) Held (object removed by Moderator) onto me after making tea

      2) Thrown (object removed by Moderator) straight at my face repeatedly each though I said ‘Ow that hurts.’

      3) Dropped a (object removed by Moderator) on my head to make the children laugh. He claimed it was just a b***k but it hurt.

      4) I was playfully jabbing his (object removed by Moderator) while he was reading (website name removed by Moderator) and he leaned over and bit me as a joke but it left a bruise in the shape of the bite mark.

      5) Occasionally he has pinched me but not hard.

      I know when I write it out it sounds bad but it’s always done in a really jokey way: almost like goofing around. Not in anger.  So sometimes I feel like I’m just being a bit ridiculous and over sensitive.

      He has broken things in anger in the past but when I told some people about it and they became involved that had stopped. Nothing has been broken in last year.

    • #173125
      Better-days
      Participant

      Hi I hope ur ok my partner does and says things similar and will say it’s a joke ect and I can’t take a joke… I think it’s unacceptable and a joke is to make you laugh.. I hope ur ok xx

    • #173142
      Bananaboat
      Participant

      It can be yes, especially if you don’t find it funny and he carries on, then he says things like you can’t take a joke. My ex would do most of things on your list especially the (object removed by Moderator) as if that was a sign of affection. I think Lundy Bancroft covers jokes that aren’t jokes it in his book from memory. But like everything in abuse it’s about denying your self esteem and asserting their control.

    • #173143
      Treesilhouette
      Participant

      Yes. I have made it clear I don’t like to be hurt and he has said I don’t like his sense of humour…. Although this was because  of the following: if I ever go to meet friends by myself in an evening or go to the gym he jokes to the kids that I’m off gallivanting. I asked him to stop saying that because I don’t think it’s fair. He is welcome to come meet my friends as my parents have offered to babysit but he chooses not to.

    • #173144
      Treesilhouette
      Participant

      Also he hasn’t apologised.

    • #173145
      Firsttimedivorcee
      Participant

      I guess my question would be, is he laughing or are you? If no one is laughing, it’s not funny. Would you do things like what he has as a joke? I understand what you’re saying. There are times where I get told it was just a joke. And things aren’t as bad as I had thought they were. But look at this from the pov of an outsider. What if it was your child going through what you are or a family member. Would you say it’s an overreaction or valid?

    • #173160
      Treesilhouette
      Participant

      I would be concerned if someone I knew was bitten. Yes. And no I don’t think it’s funny. Sometimes I laugh when I’m nervous though…. Self preservation.

    • #173232
      Workinvictim
      Participant

      Hi so sorry to hear what you are experiencing,  and from my experience I believe this is abuse,  my ex husband did all above and said the same thing that it was a joke or would say he is trying to toughened me up because I was too soft , the pinch and jabs start soft but then started getting harder to the point I had multiple bruises,  he would apologise when he see the bruises but never actually stop , I now realise this was just a way of him trying to normalise abuse, on a few occasions I try pinching or returning jabs when he says its a joke,  but he soon turn this around to always assert he is more stronger than me, please stay safe, and don’t ignore the red flags also xx

    • #173233
      bov94
      Participant

      Hi Trees,

      I am sorry to hear about your experience. In my opinion, yes this behaviour is abusive. Would you treat anyone else that way?

      My ex used ‘jokes’ and nicknames that I didn’t like that were offensive (picking up on my physical insecurities) which I realise on reflection were part of the abuse. I found none of it funny and when I stood up to him he would gas-light me “come on you love it really” “you’re being too sensitive”.

      What’s positive is that you’ve recognised the behaviour is not right, I really feel that is a big thing while still in the relationship. I was completely in denial until after we split.

    • #173282
      Treesilhouette
      Participant

      Thank you. It’s helpful to hear other people’s views. I find it hard to know what to do. Trying to be more assertive. I tried talking with a few friends earlier in the year but I think people find it too much and don’t know what to say/do.

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