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    • #79478
      J@jmum
      Participant

      Can you blame a mother (as in the mother in law) for protecting/lying for her abusive son?

      She always seemed to me like a good woman but (court detail removed by moderator). 
      It breaks my heart to see but can you blame her?
      How does a person live with themselves?

    • #79493
      KIP.
      Participant

      My son lied for his father so I can see how it happens. Whether she can live with that or not is hers to carry but I know I protected my abuser. Not at the expense of other people. She’s as much a victim in this I think. All you can do is stick to the truth. Everybody justifies their behaviour. Maybe she fears the consequences of crossing him. You don’t know what he’s threatened or how he’s playing the victim in all this. Yep, it’s a hard pill to swallow but shows the extent of his callous manipulation that he would involve her in the first place when he knows he’s wrong.

    • #79511
      diymum@1
      Participant

      shes someone who is being used for his gain – his mother its very low shes probably acting out of fear of loosing her son. i guess shes had to make a horrible choice and put him first xxxx deep down she will know he has done wrong xx love diymum

    • #79535
      Twisted Sister
      Participant

      Yes i can believe, but she is yet another victim to his manipulations.

      Even when they suspect and ‘know’ when it comes to court and serious life affecting consequences, it can be a different matter.

      My MIL used to talk to me about her abusive husband’s treatment of her. She was alone with it and it was very sad. She was sensitive to what was happening to us,but nevertheless when it came to court, it was different needless to say.

      Try to focus on you and shut him out of your thoughts, including his effects on others.

      You see, it not personal he will be abusive because hes abusive, its not because of you. He will shirk responsibility for everything to anyone.

      Warmest wishes

      TS

    • #79538
      Peacethroughhealing
      Participant

      I have wondered that recently too. His mother must have known about his previous conviction but what does she do – warn me off? This is her son and I was making a difference to his life, helping him to stop drinking and saving her son. She has used many excuses for him but I suppose she is the victim too as he has thrown abuse at her also and she is blood so she will stick with him until the end. I spent hours and hours talking to her and messaging her about her sons addiction and trying to help him and for that I get abuse from him. She said to me once ‘well if you will poke the fire…’ she also hinted that this father had been abusive and did something horrendous to her when his father died and he, my partner in the loosest sense of the word, remembers his dad being angry a lot of the time so maybe it is in the genes to an extent or he learned from his father.

    • #79625
      J@jmum
      Participant

      My mother in law seems to deny he has an issue- that I provoke him and takes on his lies.
      He tried to hurt me and didn’t succeed and her response is “oh he wouldn’t have actually done anything”

    • #79629
      KIP.
      Participant

      I think the thing to do is to distance yourself from anyone who isn’t on your side. Lundy Bancroft says there is no middle ground when it comes to abuse. You simply don’t side with an abuser under any circumstances. People who cannot choose a side need to be shown the door. Protect yourself from this kind of dysfunction. I’ve lost people over this but it’s people that if I kept in my life would make things worse.

    • #79652
      J@jmum
      Participant

      I’d hoped they would be a middle ground between us for sake of the kids and although would generally take his side where at least more reasonable people but seeing her lie under oath has done it for me, it’s official I’m done with them. Just like your advise I literally don’t feel it works to keep that rel.

    • #79655
      diymum@1
      Participant

      it also shows that his family dont have any integrity therefore not to be trusted. i had the same all minimised by the ex MIL your a drama queen your spoiled no im being abused by your son xxxx

    • #79658
      J@jmum
      Participant

      Unfortunately they get to have my kids- 3 ppl who I deem a danger 😪

    • #79659
      diymum@1
      Participant

      there are ways to do this so dont worry x*x

    • #79679
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      It’s easier than taking a good hard look at your parenting skills.

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