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    • #35956
      Serenity
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      It makes me laugh how I was ignored by CAFCASS and how they believed his facade of being caring dad.

      My youngest told me that his dad took him out to the forest for a dog walk (detail removed by moderator). Good healthy outing, you might think.

      Well, my youngest told me that his dad was in fact showing him which were the magic mushrooms (which as you know, are natural LSD and can be fatal). He was showing him how to distinguish one from the other type of mushrooms.

      My youngest is not even a teenager yet.

    • #35962
      Jupiter
      Participant

      Hi Serenity

      Read your post now and it reminds me of my narc ex who is still a crafty master manipulator as you have said here about yours.It is very frustrating and worrying plus anger-making to witness these men fooling the so called pros-if we can call them this.it proves how little they know about personality deviations and trauma.It shows how our abusers succeed in their nasty game plans to deceive.And it is horrifying.Maybe you should get a narc personality traits description from a book or web site and keep it to show the staff in Cafcass? it would be there in writing so it hasnt come just from you?Depends whether they are receptive or not?
      My ex is still active even today but when kids were small he tricked the court welfare woman -who took his side-into thinking he had a social life.Suddenly he attended church once with kids to tick her boxes when he never went in his life.Then when the dust settled my youngest told me they only went once! Children notice details.The eldest told me that dad’ tells lies and fools people!’ .Maybe in time your youngsters will detect some lies too.Maybe keep a record of all these outings and conversations ?
      Jupiter

    • #35963
      Serenity
      Participant

      Thanks, Jupiter.

      Yes, I am logging this in case I need it in the future. We are not going through court- we’ve been there in the past- but I am collecting evidence in case it needs to return to court at any stage. ( I also took a photo of his van parked across my drive a few weeks ago, since he’s not meant to be anywhere on my road!)

      What enables these abusers to continue is having no conscience. If or when you or I do anything wrong, we feel so guilty and horrible that it prevents us from doing it again. Abusers don’t have that stop button. In fact, many of them enjoy doing wrong!

    • #36005
      EeyoreNoMore
      Participant

      And a huge part of why these narc abusers continue to act this way is a lack of education. (detail removed by moderator)We are suffering unnecessarily.

      It frustrates me and I need to make it change.

    • #36166
      Nova
      Participant

      …just reading through the posts.
      Serenity, Jupiter & Ee ..seriously this …being believed..is such a huge part of the problem of the trauma we are forced to tolerate.
      If it was anyone else who had done anything wrong to me..I’d be quite straightforward & open.
      This is a billion times different…I feel the frustration in us all..it’s what continues to cause huge anxiety ill health confusion and more…even when out of the toxic hell hole.
      I watched a story on TV…one of the character from olden days said an expression..something like…If you live with a mad man, you feel half mad yourself!

      Too true

      Hugs
      XC

    • #36172
      Peaceful Pig
      Participant

      Fingers crossed your son will see the real him enough to decide what’s best ie. not seeing his dad. Your son telling you this proves he knows it’s wrong. Your ex may think he’s being clever but your son’s too sensible to be led astray xx

    • #36177
      Serenity
      Participant

      So proud of my eldest! 😍

      I decided to sit down with my youngest and just check that he knew how dangerous taking (removed by moderator) can be.

      He clammed up and refused to talk about it- but the good thing is, he went directly to his older brother and told him I wanted to chat to him about (removed by moderator). My eldest asked why I was doing that, and he told him about his dad showing him some, etc.

      My eldest came down into the kitchen and told me how angry he was with his dad for doing that. He said that his younger brother was naive and quite innocent for his age, and he felt furious that his dad had done this.

      Next thing I know, my eldest is phoning his dad, telling him that what he did was really bad and not what a dad should do! He told his own father off-told him that his brother was naive and too young to be shown things like that.

      This is a huge stride for my eldest, who lived in fear of his dad for many years.

      I feel so proud of my eldest: he was genuinely angry because he felt protective towards his brother.

      And my ex’s response? To deny it! So like a true coward, he lied to my eldest ( and in doing this, is saying my youngest has lied too).

      I think I know who the bigger man is out of my ex and my eldest.

      How pathetic the situation is: a teenage son telling his dad off about his parenting!

    • #36179
      Nova
      Participant

      Wow!!! Serenity, what a positive result! You have taken control of that situation..and your boys are with you.
      Good woman & all power to you..your sons, are listening to their Mum who is being a great parent dealing with the damaging influences of a narc. Keep going you are their rock.

      Great to hear!!!

      Hugs Cx

    • #36181
      Jupiter
      Participant

      Fantastic insight and clear vision of the truth from youngsters! Hope this is the start of better times in terms of narcs and their pathetic lies…long live truth!
      Jupiter

    • #36210
      Peaceful Pig
      Participant

      That’s amazing, Serenity! I’m really proud of him too, and you – you’re doing a great job 👍 xx

    • #36232
      White Rose
      Participant

      Dear Serenity
      What an amazing young man you are raising! You should be walking 6 feet off the ground.
      As for van across the drive that’s another story. Hes pushing the boundaries – does he know how strong you are now and he could have met his match in the new you?
      Be proud of your sons xx

    • #36234
      Serenity
      Participant

      Thank you, all.

      Having a safe home where he knows my ex is not allowed to be has helped my eldest grow in strength. I’m so glad I cut off contact and battled for the right to not have him near my home.

      He might be stupidly parking outside- but he can’t come in. And I don’t even go to the front of the house when he parks up, so his efforts to scare/ affect me are in vain.

      My kids are seeing him for the bully he is.

      My eldest said about his dad lying about the above situation, that he didn’t want to think that his dad was that bad, but the fact he lied to him rather than admit fault made him realise how bad his dad can be ( like me, my eldest probably finds it easy to blame himself for abuse suffered and maybe thought he deserved his dad’s abuse- but when you see others being mistreated- like his little brother- you can more clearly see that it is abuse).

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